Palin doesn't know what the Bush Doctrine is

[DNoz29]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgMWhrCzbdk

And yet she's potentially one heartbeat away from being President. :doh:

The entire interview is on 20/20 tonight.

[Brad]

She said she believes that he has tried to rid the world of Islamic extremists and terrorists. Which could be construed as those who we would pose a threat to us. Not as big of a deal as everyone is making it.

[Seahawcla]

She said she believes that he has tried to rid the world of Islamic extremists and terrorists. Which could be construed as those who we would pose a threat to us. Not as big of a deal as everyone is making it.

Iraq was neither of these, I

read too much stuff on current events and I have never heard the Bush Doctrine. I could have guessed it, but I dont fault Palin for not knowing it.

[timonahan]

She said she believes that he has tried to rid the world of Islamic extremists and terrorists. Which could be construed as those who we would pose a threat to us. Not as big of a deal as everyone is making it.

while I despise both of these groups, he can't just use the military to do that.

What if next week he decides he hates the Brits or the Canadians, is it ok for him to use this country to rid the world of them to?

[DNoz29]

Iraq was neither of these, I

read too much stuff on current events and I have never heard the Bush Doctrine. I could have guessed it, but I dont fault Palin for not knowing it.
But you're not a politician who has a better-than likely possibility ( > 50/50, IMO) of being the president of the world leader. I think it's realistic to expect her to know what it is, seeing as she's from the same party and seems to have a lot of the same beliefs as G-Dubbs.

However, after this, everyone will know what it is.

[Seahawcla]

But you're not a politician who has a better-than likely possibility ( > 50/50, IMO) of being the president of the world leader. I think it's realistic to expect her to know what it is, seeing as she's from the same party and seems to have a lot of the same beliefs as G-Dubbs.

However, after this, everyone will know what it is.

What I meant and it came across poorly I know...

The Bush Doctrine is not a real thing, its a term which can be interpreted to mean various things regarding his FP. It is a summary of his actions.

I think GWB did an amazing job destroying the goodwill we had across the globe from 9/11, but unless I am wrong and the Bush Doctrine was a formal policy that has clear pieces to it I cant fault Palin for asking for clarification.

[DNoz29]

What I meant and it came across poorly I know...

The Bush Doctrine is not a real thing, its a term which can be interpreted to mean various things regarding his FP. It is a summary of his actions.

I think GWB did an amazing job destroying the goodwill we had across the globe from 9/11, but unless I am wrong and the Bush Doctrine was a formal policy that has clear pieces to it I cant fault Palin for asking for clarification.
Gotcha.

While it may not be a formal policy, you'd think the Republican VP candidate would at least have an idea. Did you see the blank stare on her face? I thought she was buying time to formulate an answer by asking Gibson to clarify.

If nothing else, it just shows her weakness when it comes to foreign policy, which is a legitimate criticism of her as the Rep. VP candidate. Since it seems this has turned into Palin vs. Obama instead of McCain vs. Obama, it's a legit concern.

I think she's going to get rolled over the debates. She can't just keep repeating the same talking points like those in her acceptance speech.

And yes, W did an excellent job destroying that goodwill. Only one man could have done it, and it was him. :(

[AUTaxMan]

Is there even such a thing as the "Bush Doctrine"? I follow politics relatively closely, and I've never heard of it. Sounds like more media BS to me.

[scrappy]

i am not really looking forward to any debate because the mccain side of it will just give her, her answers. not that i think he's going to rescind his offer but since the announcement she's been a puppet and i don't see it happening for much longer.

she's staying at her home, while coming back from her sons deployment ceremony yesterday in fairbanks, and since she's home, traffic has been a bitch out in the valley today. not to mention it's the largest shopping day in the state.

i saw clips of her interview and it's not the sarah palin alaskans know.

[DNoz29]

Is there even such a thing as the "Bush Doctrine"? I follow politics relatively closely, and I've never heard of it. Sounds like more media BS to me.
Like Jon said, it's not a formal policy. But it is something that garnered attention after 9/11.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_Doctrine (I hate using Wikipedia as a source)

http://www.aei.org/publications/pubID.15845/pub_detail.asp

"The Bush Doctrine, which is likely to shape U.S. policy for decades to come, reflects the realities of American power as well as the aspirations of American political principles."

[vetsgt02]

The Bush Doctrine is not a actual doctrine though it is not like it is a law it is a term the Dems made up to discredit Bush.

[Seahawcla]

The Bush Doctrine is not a actual doctrine though it is not like it is a law it is a term the Dems made up to discredit Bush.

Dems dont have to do it, he does it himself ;)

[vetsgt02]

Dems dont have to do it, he does it himself ;)

By what doing the right thing to protect our country?

1.Terrorist were/are in Afghanistan
2. Iraq was a threat and was making stuff to build WMD. Hell we just found 550 tons of yellow cake uranium in Iraq what do you think that was for? My guess blowing the hell out of us.

But I guess if protecting our country from another 9-11 makes someone a bad guy then Bush must be the freaking Anti-Christ

[Zeeck]

Is the Bush Doctrine anything like the Sneaky Zeeck?

[Seahawcla]

By what doing the right thing to protect our country?

1.Terrorist were/are in Afghanistan
2. Iraq was a threat and was making stuff to build WMD. Hell we just found 550 tons of yellow cake uranium in Iraq what do you think that was for? My guess blowing the hell out of us.

But I guess if protecting our country from another 9-11 makes someone a bad guy then Bush must be the freaking Anti-Christ

Iraq was a fly on the wall and that yellow cake was tracked and known about for years. It was not a legit concern, I did some research on the article you gave me ;)

North Korea was a much more clear threat with a winnable end goal. Korea will become united again, when the people of North Korea figure out why they are three inches shorter on average to their neighbors. We can not establish a democracy in Iraq without intense military presence in the area long term. We went into an area that was free from terrorism, killed their piehole of a dictator and opened up an open for business sign for terrorists in the country. At some point we will head out of the region with a similarity smacking of Vietnam.

Iraq was an economic endeavor with GWB and his cronies crying democracy and terrorist at every turn to hide our imperialist nature.

Georgians have killed innocent people in South Ossetia who have been trying to get their freedom from Georgia since the Soviet Union broke apart. Both Georgia and Russia suck, but we dont call out Georgia :roll: side FP rant

This is not a rep or dem issue like some try to make it, its understanding the world is a much smaller place and the need to create allies and willing trading partners should be the goal. GWB has struggled to maintain this in his tenure (and brought debt to a whole new level to top it off).

[DNoz29]

Iraq was a fly on the wall and that yellow cake was tracked and known about for years. It was not a legit concern, I did some research on the article you gave me ;)

North Korea was a much more clear threat with a winnable end goal. Korea will become united again, when the people of North Korea figure out why they are three inches shorter on average to their neighbors. We can not establish a democracy in Iraq without intense military presence in the area long term. We went into an area that was free from terrorism, killed their piehole of a dictator and opened up an open for business sign for terrorists in the country. At some point we will head out of the region with a similarity smacking of Vietnam.

Iraq was an economic endeavor with GWB and his cronies crying democracy and terrorist at every turn to hide our imperialist nature.

Georgians have killed innocent people in South Ossetia who have been trying to get their freedom from Georgia since the Soviet Union broke apart. Both Georgia and Russia suck, but we dont call out Georgia :roll: side FP rant

This is not a rep or dem issue like some try to make it, its understanding the world is a much smaller place and the need to create allies and willing trading partners should be the goal. GWB has struggled to maintain this in his tenure (and brought debt to a whole new level to top it off).

:clap::salut:

[vetsgt02]

Iraq was a fly on the wall and that yellow cake was tracked and known about for years. It was not a legit concern, I did some research on the article you gave me ;)

Not legitimate concern? Well I work in a weapons lab here in the US and I will not say alot about it but We make explosives and such and I can tell you that 550 Tons of yellow Cake Uranium Will F your world UP bad. It can be used to make major WMD and if he did not use them himself I bet he was going to make them and then sell them to terrorist who might have.

North Korea was a much more clear threat with a winnable end goal. Korea will become united again, when the people of North Korea figure out why they are three inches shorter on average to their neighbors. We can not establish a democracy in Iraq without intense military presence in the area long term. We went into an area that was free from terrorism, killed their piehole of a dictator and opened up an open for business sign for terrorists in the country. At some point we will head out of the region with a similarity smacking of Vietnam.

The reason we have not finished it off in Korea is because the South Koreans do not want us to again I spent 2 years there in the army. They want us there to help protect there borders and basically are just waiting for this guy to die and then hope the people will want to rejoin them.

Iraq was an economic endeavor with GWB and his cronies crying democracy and terrorist at every turn to hide our imperialist nature.

Again this is in my opinion completely false. What is our country known for? Remember the WW1 and WW2 we are know for standing up for what is right. Iraq was becoming out of control and ow they have a chance at freedom.

Georgians have killed innocent people in South Ossetia who have been trying to get their freedom from Georgia since the Soviet Union broke apart. Both Georgia and Russia suck, but we dont call out Georgia :roll: side FP rant

I will be honest I do not know enough about this one to speak on it

This is not a rep or dem issue like some try to make it, its understanding the world is a much smaller place and the need to create allies and willing trading partners should be the goal. GWB has struggled to maintain this in his tenure (and brought debt to a whole new level to top it off).

Fair point here. I agree with the needed to make more allies. As for the debt this has been a hard thing for bush this is the first time we have been funding 2 major wars at once in modern history and it cost alot of money. In todays war there are far less deaths in combat but it cost a grip more money. Fair trade I think



Made my points in BOLD

[Tazz]

while I despise both of these groups, he can't just use the military to do that.

What if next week he decides he hates the Brits or the Canadians, is it ok for him to use this country to rid the world of them to?
If they pose a threat to America or it's allies, I pray to God that he does.

[bamasa37sb34]

Is the Bush Doctrine anything like the Sneaky Zeeck?

Quite possibly. I watched some weird movie from 1978 called the Bush Doctrine. I believe there was a Sneaky Zeeck involved in at least a couple of scenes.

[vetsgt02]

If they pose a threat to America or it's allies, I pray to God that he does.

I agree 100%

[Seahawcla]

Iraq was an economic endeavor with GWB and his cronies crying democracy and terrorist at every turn to hide our imperialist nature.

Again this is in my opinion completely false. What is our country known for? Remember the WW1 and WW2 we are know for standing up for what is right. Iraq was becoming out of control and ow they have a chance at freedom.

Go read even the patriotic HS History Books. Both WWI and WWII we went in because of Germany hurting wrecking our trade to other nations. We butted into Japan's business which provoked their attack on Pearl Harbor. I am glad we went into both wars and it was necessary, but we wanted to stay out even as Hitler was taking over all of Europe. It wasnt noble we went in, it was necessary for our economy.

If you leave the US we are not known for standing up for what is right, especially if you go anywhere outside of Western Europe. We have intervened across the globe trying to quench our imperialistic thirst since the late 1800s.

Yes we have done some truly humanitarian things, but our major foreign policy decisions the last 100 years are rooted in looking out for #1 and our quest for the almighty dollar.

When I say this I think our country does things better then most, but we can be better at home and across the globe.

[vetsgt02]

Iraq was an economic endeavor with GWB and his cronies crying democracy and terrorist at every turn to hide our imperialist nature.

Again this is in my opinion completely false. What is our country known for? Remember the WW1 and WW2 we are know for standing up for what is right. Iraq was becoming out of control and ow they have a chance at freedom.

Go read even the patriotic HS History Books. Both WWI and WWII we went in because of Germany hurting wrecking our trade to other nations. We butted into Japan's business which provoked their attack on Pearl Harbor. I am glad we went into both wars and it was necessary, but we wanted to stay out even as Hitler was taking over all of Europe. It wasnt noble we went in, it was necessary for our economy.

If you leave the US we are not known for standing up for what is right, especially if you go anywhere outside of Western Europe. We have intervened across the globe trying to quench our imperialistic thirst since the late 1800s.

Yes we have done some truly humanitarian things, but our major foreign policy decisions the last 100 years are rooted in looking out for #1 and our quest for the almighty dollar.

When I say this I think our country does things better then most, but we can be better at home and across the globe.

Those are fair points. One thing that does bother me is how we will spend billions overseas in sending food, water and such when we have people starving here. I have always felt that we should do more here first then help other countries. For example we spend billions in Africa in support of the Aids virus there but why? Do not get me wrong I feel bad for them but shouldn't we worry about the aids virus here first. On that Note Africa brings us nothing for the Economy so by your definition why are we there?

[Seahawcla]

Thats why I said major, we do some minor things that are truly noble. But some of the most evil leaders are in Africa right now and we sit with our hands in our pockets because there is nothing economically viable for us there.

Cold War, both World Wars, our trips to Iraq have economic connections driving our decisions. But we cant just say thats why we make these decisions.

[vetsgt02]

Thats why I said major, we do some minor things that are truly noble. But some of the most evil leaders are in Africa right now and we sit with our hands in our pockets because there is nothing economically viable for us there.

Cold War, both World Wars, our trips to Iraq have economic connections driving our decisions. But we cant just say thats why we make these decisions.


True I was not trying to prove you wrong with Africa I was actually wondering if I was missing something :)

[DNoz29]

If they pose a threat to America or it's allies, I pray to God that he does.
Yeah, I don't think the Canadians will be attacking us anytime soon...

The Canadian Air Force:
http://www.guypilon.com/CanadianAirForce.jpg

And if you watch this (http://www.southparkstudios.com/guide/1104/) episode of South Park, you'll see what the British Navy has to offer. ;)

What's next? Mexico attacking us? lol