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rexvos
10-28-2008, 06:05 PM
I just posted the article. It seems like Obama is tied to another terrorist, which once again does not make him a terrorist, but shows that he has poor judgement, and the media is suppressing the tape!

The L.A. Times Suppresses Obama’s Khalidi Bash Tape
Obama, Ayers, and PLO supporters toast Edward Said’s successor, but the press doesn’t think it’s quite as newsworthy as Sarah Palin’s wardrobe.

By Andrew C. McCarthy


Let’s try a thought experiment. Say John McCain attended a party at which known racists and terror mongers were in attendance. Say testimonials were given, including a glowing one by McCain for the benefit of the guest of honor ... who happened to be a top apologist for terrorists. Say McCain not only gave a speech but stood by, in tacit approval and solidarity, while other racists and terror mongers gave speeches that reeked of hatred for an American ally and rationalizations of terror attacks.

Now let’s say the Los Angeles Times obtained a videotape of the party.

Question: Is there any chance — any chance — the Times would not release the tape and publish front-page story after story about the gory details, with the usual accompanying chorus of sanctimony from the oped commentariat? Is there any chance, if the Times was the least bit reluctant about publishing (remember, we’re pretending here), that the rest of the mainstream media (y’know, the guys who drove Trent Lott out of his leadership position over a birthday-party toast) would not be screaming for the release of the tape?

Do we really have to ask?

So now, let’s leave thought experiments and return to reality: Why is the Los Angeles Times sitting on a videotape of the 2003 farewell bash in Chicago at which Barack Obama lavished praise on the guest of honor, Rashid Khalidi — former mouthpiece for master terrorist Yasser Arafat?

At the time Khalidi, a PLO adviser turned University of Chicago professor, was headed east to Columbia. There he would take over the University’s Middle East-studies program (which he has since maintained as a bubbling cauldron of anti-Semitism) and assume the professorship endowed in honor of Edward Sayyid, another notorious terror apologist.

The party featured encomiums by many of Khalidi’s allies, colleagues, and friends, including Barack Obama, then an Illinois state senator, and Bill Ayers, the terrorist turned education professor. It was sponsored by the Arab American Action Network (AAAN), which had been founded by Khalidi and his wife, Mona, formerly a top English translator for Arafat’s press agency.

Is there just a teeny-weenie chance that this was an evening of Israel-bashing Obama would find very difficult to explain? Could it be that the Times, a pillar of the Obamedia, is covering for its guy?

Gateway Pundit reports that the Times has the videotape but is suppressing it.

Back in April, the Times published a gentle story about the fete. Reporter Peter Wallsten avoided, for example, any mention of the inconvenient fact that the revelers included Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn, Ayers’s wife and fellow Weatherman terrorist. These self-professed revolutionary Leftists are friendly with both Obama and Khalidi — indeed, researcher Stanley Kurtz has noted that Ayers and Khalidi were “best friends.” (And — small world! — it turns out that the Obamas are extremely close to the Khalidis, who have reportedly babysat the Obama children.)

Nor did the Times report the party was thrown by AAAN. Wallsten does tell us that the AAAN received grants from the Leftist Woods Fund when Obama was on its board — but, besides understating the amount (it was $75,000, not $40,000), the Times mentions neither that Ayers was also on the Woods board at the time nor that AAAN is rabidly anti-Israel. (Though the organization regards Israel as illegitimate and has sought to justify Palestinian terrorism, Wallsten describes the AAAN as “a social service group.”)

Perhaps even more inconveniently, the Times also let slip that it had obtained a videotape of the party.

Wallsten’s story is worth excerpting at length (italics are mine):

It was a celebration of Palestinian culture — a night of music, dancing and a dash of politics. Local Arab Americans were bidding farewell to Rashid Khalidi, an internationally known scholar, critic of Israel and advocate for Palestinian rights, who was leaving town for a job in New York.

A special tribute came from Khalidi's friend and frequent dinner companion, the young state Sen. Barack Obama. Speaking to the crowd, Obama reminisced about meals prepared by Khalidi's wife, Mona, and conversations that had challenged his thinking.

His many talks with the Khalidis, Obama said, had been "consistent reminders to me of my own blind spots and my own biases. . . . It's for that reason that I'm hoping that, for many years to come, we continue that conversation — a conversation that is necessary not just around Mona and Rashid's dinner table," but around "this entire world."...

[T]he warm embrace Obama gave to Khalidi, and words like those at the professor's going-away party, have left some Palestinian American leaders believing that Obama is more receptive to their viewpoint than he is willing to say.

Their belief is not drawn from Obama's speeches or campaign literature, but from comments that some say Obama made in private and from his association with the Palestinian American community in his hometown of Chicago, including his presence at events where anger at Israeli and U.S. Middle East policy was freely expressed.

At Khalidi's 2003 farewell party, for example, a young Palestinian American recited a poem accusing the Israeli government of terrorism in its treatment of Palestinians and sharply criticizing U.S. support of Israel. If Palestinians cannot secure their own land, she said, "then you will never see a day of peace."

One speaker likened "Zionist settlers on the West Bank" to Osama bin Laden, saying both had been "blinded by ideology."

Obama adopted a different tone in his comments and called for finding common ground. But his presence at such events, as he worked to build a political base in Chicago, has led some Palestinian leaders to believe that he might deal differently with the Middle East than … his opponents for the White House....

At Khalidi's going-away party in 2003, the scholar lavished praise on Obama, telling the mostly Palestinian American crowd that the state senator deserved their help in winning a U.S. Senate seat. "You will not have a better senator under any circumstances," Khalidi said.

The event was videotaped, and a copy of the tape was obtained by The Times.

Though Khalidi has seen little of Sen. Obama in recent years, Michelle Obama attended a party several months ago celebrating the marriage of the Khalidis' daughter.

In interviews with The Times, Khalidi declined to discuss specifics of private talks over the years with Obama. He did not begrudge his friend for being out of touch, or for focusing more these days on his support for Israel — a stance that Khalidi calls a requirement to win a national election in the U.S., just as wooing Chicago's large Arab American community was important for winning local elections.


So why is the Times sitting on the videotape of the Khalidi festivities? Given Obama's (preposterous) claims that he didn’t know Ayers that well and was unfamiliar with Ayers’s views, why didn't the Times report that Ayers and Dohrn were at the bash? Was it not worth mentioning the remarkable coincidence that both Obama and Ayers — the “education reform” allies who barely know each other … except to the extent they together doled out tens of millions of dollars to Leftist agitators, attacked the criminal justice system, and raved about each others books — just happen to be intimate friends of the same anti-American Israel-basher? (Despite having watched the videotape, Wallsten told Gateway Pundit he “did not know” whether Ayers was there.)

Why won’t the Times tell us what was said in the various Khalidi testimonials? On that score, Ayers and Dohrn have always had characteristically noxious views on the Israeli/Palestinian dispute. And, true to form, they have always been quite open about them. There is no reason to believe those views have ever changed. Here, for example, is what they had to say in Prairie Fire, the Weather Underground’s 1974 Communist manifesto (emphasis in original):

Palestinian independence is opposed with reactionary schemes by Jordan, completely opposed with military terror by Israel, and manipulated by the U.S. The U.S.-sponsored notion of stability and status-quo in the Mideast is an attempt to preserve U.S. imperialist control of oil, using zionist power as the cat's paw. The Mideast has become a world focus of struggles over oil resources and control of strategic sea and air routes. Yet the Palestinian struggle is at the heart of other conflicts in the Mideast. Only the Palestinians can determine the solution which reflects the aspirations of the Palestinian people. No "settlements" in the Mideast which exclude the Palestinians will resolve the conflict. Palestinian liberation will not be suppressed.

The U.S. people have been seriously deceived about the Palestinians and Israel. This calls for a campaign to educate and focus attention on the true situation: teach-ins, debates, and open clear support for Palestinian liberation; reading about the Palestinian movement—The Disinherited by Fawaz Turki, Enemy of the Sun; opposing U.S. aid to Israel. Our silence or acceptance of pro-zionist policy is a form of complicity with U.S.-backed aggression and terror, and a betrayal of internationalism.

SELF-DETERMINATION FOR THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE!

U.S. OUT OF THE MIDEAST!

END AID TO ISRAEL!

Barack Obama wouldn’t possibly let something like that pass without a spirited defense of the Israel he tells us he so staunchly supports … would he? I guess to answer that question, we’d have to know what was on the tape.

But who has time for such trifles? After all, isn’t Diana Vreeland about to critique Sarah Palin’s sartorial splendor?

— National Review’s Andrew C. McCarthy chairs the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies’s Center for Law & Counterterrorism and is the author of Willful Blindness: A Memoir of the Jihad (Encounter Books 2008).

Seahawcla
10-28-2008, 06:29 PM
I agree let it out, it will be much to do about nothing and those that hate him will make it seem like he was in bed with the Muslim Extremists.

I cant stand Palin because of her politics and false claims of being the Maverick that McCain is. I think its petty most of the stuff she and Obama get pegged to.

rexvos
10-28-2008, 06:34 PM
I agree let it out, it will be much to do about nothing and those that hate him will make it seem like he was in bed with the Muslim Extremists.

I cant stand Palin because of her politics and false claims of being the Maverick that McCain is. I think its petty most of the stuff she and Obama get pegged to.


I do not think he is a Muslim. I do not think he is an Extremist. I think he is a man who has made poor decisions.

He is associated with:

Jeremiah Wright - what would the media say if John McCain was associated with David Duke?

Bill Ayers -- Why if you have any political aspirations would you have any association with a nut job extremist terrorist unrepentented murderer? Poor poor judgement.

Now this? I assume it is much ado about nothing, but give me a break, what would say if the shoe was on the other foot?

Zeeck
10-28-2008, 06:47 PM
I do not think he is a Muslim. I do not think he is an Extremist. I think he is a man who has made poor decisions.

He is associated with:

Jeremiah Wright - what would the media say if John McCain was associated with David Duke?

Bill Ayers -- Why if you have any political aspirations would you have any association with a nut job extremist terrorist unrepentented murderer? Poor poor judgement.

Now this? I assume it is much ado about nothing, but give me a break, what would say if the shoe was on the other foot?

Don't forget about Tony Rezko

rexvos
10-28-2008, 06:51 PM
Don't forget about Tony Rezko

yep, forgot that one.

timonahan
10-28-2008, 06:56 PM
yep, forgot that one.

we are in trouble :(

Cano Collector
10-28-2008, 08:04 PM
Damned Republicans :doh:

Seahawklady
10-28-2008, 10:56 PM
Oh JEEZ, not this crap again :doh:

Oh, be careful who you talk to, who you are on a community board with, who you go into the houses of.... :shock:

Scare tactics once again from the Party of Fear :roll:

oregonweim
10-29-2008, 06:47 AM
I've seen images of Arafat with bush.... :shifty:

rexvos
10-29-2008, 08:45 AM
Oh JEEZ, not this crap again :doh:

Oh, be careful who you talk to, who you are on a community board with, who you go into the houses of.... :shock:

Scare tactics once again from the Party of Fear :roll:


you do not associate with known terrorists if you want to be President. Once again not saying he is a terrorist, but very poor judgement. If our country was not so obsessed with the cult of personality, there is no way Obama would get elected. I understand if it could happen once, but multiple times??? Plus a major news agency is suppressing the video tape??? I am not saying McCain is a great choice, but good lord would all you liberals stop chugging the kool-aid for one second and be objective about the guy?

AUTaxMan
10-29-2008, 09:13 AM
This is what scares me the most. These are his words. This is who he is.

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/28/obama-affinity-marxists-dates-college-days/

Time for Obama supporters to mature and actually THINK about what they are going to do next week.

AUTaxMan
10-29-2008, 11:52 AM
Ooooo a Foxnews.com link

Typical liberal deflection. Please address the issues raised in the article for a change. What do you think, honestly, about Obama's admitted Marxist ideals?

rexvos
10-29-2008, 12:26 PM
Ooooo a Foxnews.com link

Speaking of poor judgement and college ... McCain's naval academy class rank was 894 of 899. Way to apply yourself John ;)

in a recent Pew poll Fox News actually ranked as the least biased of the major news outlets.

and of the McCain Navy thing, you are not going to hold something that happened 100 years ago against him are you? ;)

DNoz29
10-29-2008, 01:05 PM
in a recent Pew poll Fox News actually ranked as the least biased of the major news outlets.
Any chance you could provide a link/source for this?

rexvos
10-29-2008, 01:13 PM
Any chance you could provide a link/source for this?

I read it and saw it on the news last night, trying to find a link to it, when I do I will post.

vetsgt02
10-29-2008, 01:31 PM
I've seen images of Arafat with bush.... :shifty:

Not this crap again for goodness sakes HE IS NOT RUNNING AGAINST BUSH. The Obama supporters are down right stupid with the Bush rants who cares that has nothing to do with McCain and like what McCain has done or not at least he has a freaking record to look at other than a speach in 2004.

DNoz29
10-29-2008, 01:41 PM
More guilt by association, I see. Well, chew on this one:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/28/mccain-funded-work-of-pal_n_138606.html

"During the 1990s, while he served as chairman of the International Republican Institute (IRI), McCain distributed several grants to the Palestinian research center co-founded by Khalidi, including one worth half a million dollars.

A 1998 tax filing for the McCain-led group shows a $448,873 grant to Khalidi's Center for Palestine Research and Studies for work in the West Bank. (See grant number 5180, "West Bank: CPRS" on page 14 of this PDF.)

The relationship extends back as far as 1993, when John McCain joined IRI as chairman in January. Foreign Affairs noted in September of that year that IRI had helped fund several extensive studies in Palestine run by Khalidi's group, including over 30 public opinion polls and a study of "sociopolitical attitudes."

Of course, there's seemingly nothing objectionable with McCain's organization helping a Palestinian group conduct research in the West Bank or Gaza. But it does suggest that McCain could have some of his own explaining to do as he tries to make hay out of Khalidi's ties to Obama."

http://www.iri.org/newsarchive/2007/2007-10-22-News-AP-McCain.asp

rexvos
10-29-2008, 02:22 PM
Any chance you could provide a link/source for this?

Not this crap again for goodness sakes HE IS NOT RUNNING AGAINST BUSH. The Obama supporters are down right stupid with the Bush rants who cares that has nothing to do with McCain and like what McCain has done or not at least he has a freaking record to look at other than a speach in 2004.

he was joking.

Blitzburgh
10-29-2008, 04:08 PM
Ooooo a Foxnews.com link

Speaking of poor judgement and college ... McCain's naval academy class rank was 894 of 899. Way to apply yourself John ;)

:roflmao::roflmao::roflmao:

Blitzburgh
10-29-2008, 04:11 PM
Not this crap again for goodness sakes HE IS NOT RUNNING AGAINST BUSH. The Obama supporters are down right stupid with the Bush rants who cares that has nothing to do with McCain and like what McCain has done or not at least he has a freaking record to look at other than a speach in 2004.

Reagan and Bush Sr sold biological weapons to Iraq in the '80s.
One of McCain's best friends is G Gordon Liddy.
and as always Palin is a complete moron.

rexvos
10-29-2008, 04:11 PM
More guilt by association, I see. Well, chew on this one:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/28/mccain-funded-work-of-pal_n_138606.html

"During the 1990s, while he served as chairman of the International Republican Institute (IRI), McCain distributed several grants to the Palestinian research center co-founded by Khalidi, including one worth half a million dollars.

A 1998 tax filing for the McCain-led group shows a $448,873 grant to Khalidi's Center for Palestine Research and Studies for work in the West Bank. (See grant number 5180, "West Bank: CPRS" on page 14 of this PDF.)

The relationship extends back as far as 1993, when John McCain joined IRI as chairman in January. Foreign Affairs noted in September of that year that IRI had helped fund several extensive studies in Palestine run by Khalidi's group, including over 30 public opinion polls and a study of "sociopolitical attitudes."

Of course, there's seemingly nothing objectionable with McCain's organization helping a Palestinian group conduct research in the West Bank or Gaza. But it does suggest that McCain could have some of his own explaining to do as he tries to make hay out of Khalidi's ties to Obama."

http://www.iri.org/newsarchive/2007/2007-10-22-News-AP-McCain.asp


another troubling issue. all I am asking is for the tape that the LA Times has to be made public.

rexvos
10-29-2008, 04:13 PM
Reagan and Bush Sr sold biological weapons to Iraq in the '80s.
One of McCain's best friends is G Gordon Liddy.
and as always Palin is a complete moron.

once again you show how completely stupid and irrational as a human being you are by calling Palin a complete moron.

you have the reasoning ability of a sack of excrement.

AUTaxMan
10-29-2008, 04:18 PM
Still waiting on one of the resident libs to explain their feelings on Obama's statements in the article.

rexvos
10-29-2008, 04:21 PM
Still waiting on one of the resident libs to explain their feelings on Obama's statements in the article.

it does not matter. I just posted it because I want the tape released, as most people think that kind of thing is what legitimate news agencies do.

No one is going to change their political opinions, as most are strongly held. I respect a lot of peoples beliefs, actually most people. Just as long as they do not repeat talking points of a particular party ad nauseum, reduce everything to ridiculous statements (ie Obama is a muslim terrorist, or Palin is a moron)

Some people are just Kool Aid drinking sheep that cannot think for themselves. (on both sides)

AUTaxMan
10-29-2008, 04:25 PM
Just as long as they do not repeat talking points of a particular party ad nauseum, reduce everything to ridiculous statements (ie Obama is a muslim terrorist, or Palin is a moron)

Some people are just Kool Aid drinking sheep that cannot think for themselves. (on both sides)

Very true. It's sad.

Blitzburgh
10-29-2008, 04:26 PM
once again you show how completely stupid and irrational as a human being you are by calling Palin a complete moron.

you have the reasoning ability of a sack of excrement.

Cool, make sure you go ahead and give yourself a warning, take a way a point or two, Ive gotten them for much less....


Palin is a complete moron. After seeing her on several occasions in public venues, I feel very safe in my decision on calling her so...

they should release the tape, i am all for it...

rexvos
10-29-2008, 04:29 PM
Cool, make sure you go ahead and give yourself a warning, take a way a point or two, Ive gotten them for much less....


Palin is a complete moron. After seeing her on several occasions in public venues, I feel very safe in my decision on calling her so...

they should release the tape, in all for it...

I already made sure that all the other mods/founders can see my statement so they can discipline me if they want. thank you.

also you once again show your lack of reasoning ability by not know the difference between me calling you a sack of excrement and saying that you do not have the reasoning ablity of a sack of excrement, because of your ridiculous reductionism:salut:

Blitzburgh
10-29-2008, 04:31 PM
I already made sure that all the other mods/founders can see my statement so they can discipline me if they want. thank you.

also you once again show your lack of reasoning ability by not know the difference between me calling you a sack of excrement and saying that you do not have the reasoning ablity of a sack of excrement, because of your ridiculous reductionism:salut:

Type too fast?

I could not care less about how you feel about me calling her a moron....

rexvos
10-29-2008, 04:31 PM
type too fast?

yes.

Blitzburgh
10-29-2008, 04:36 PM
She's an idiot who doesn't belong on the ticket, straight up. The Republicans lost my entire families vote the second they put her on.

AUTaxMan
10-29-2008, 04:37 PM
Type too fast?

I could not care less about how you feel about me calling her a moron....

I think Obama should take that sweet Santonio Holmes card in your sig and give it to me because I clearly do not have your collecting budget.

rexvos
10-29-2008, 04:39 PM
She's an idiot who doesn't belong on the ticket, straight up. The Republicans lost my entire families vote the second they put her on.

Why she was not the best selection, to call her an idiot is beyond ludicrous. She made some bad mistakes on a couple of interviews, as Bill Clinton did recently in an interview with Greta Van Susteren. Do you think he is a complete idiot? She made her bed when she took on the media, and she has been raked over the coals because of it. I vote on issues not personalities.

Blitzburgh
10-29-2008, 04:39 PM
I think Obama should take that sweet Santonio Holmes card in your sig and give it to me because I clearly do not have your collecting budget.

Clearly.

rexvos
10-29-2008, 04:40 PM
Clearly.

wow that was smug.

Blitzburgh
10-29-2008, 04:41 PM
Why she was not the best selection, to call her an idiot is beyond ludicrous. She made some bad mistakes on a couple of interviews, as Bill Clinton did recently in an interview with Greta Van Susteren. Do you think he is a complete idiot? She made her bed when she took on the media, and she has been raked over the coals because of it. I vote on issues not personalities.

As do I, and I have a major issue with her being on the ticket.

rexvos
10-29-2008, 04:41 PM
As do I, and I have a major issue with her being on the ticket.

clearly.

Blitzburgh
10-29-2008, 04:42 PM
wow that was smug.

Please... You can't be serious.

rexvos
10-29-2008, 04:44 PM
Please... You can't be serious.

depends on if you were serious or not.

Blitzburgh
10-29-2008, 04:45 PM
depends on if you were serious or not.

LOL, no, he made a sarcastic comment, and I in turn replied accordingly.

rexvos
10-29-2008, 04:46 PM
LOL, no, he made a sarcastic comment, and I in turn replied accordingly.

then it was funny. Sorry sarcasm does not come out in print. I just went on what I have seen in pass posts to come up with a judgement. For that I apologize.

Blitzburgh
10-29-2008, 04:47 PM
Im out of here, nice chat as always. I just saw this in an other thread, love it...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzyT9-9lUyE

AUTaxMan
10-29-2008, 04:49 PM
later. great vid.

timonahan
10-29-2008, 04:59 PM
Im out of here, nice chat as always. I just saw this in an other thread, love it...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzyT9-9lUyE

dude, you don't work and play well with others do you.

there are ways to get your views out there without telling everyone else their view is wrong.


I disagree with a lot of things in this thread, but you are the one who tends to get nasty about stuff and your opinion is the only one that counts.

Maybe try at least seeing someone else's point of view once in a while, it might help.

vetsgt02
10-29-2008, 05:18 PM
Still trying to figure out why palin does not belong on the ticket when she is the only one out of the four who has ever worked a budget. If we go be experience then Obama should not be on the ticket either. She has been a Gov just as long as Obama has been in Senate. So many people are just media sheep (as said before).


In fact my son has a stuffed animal (sheep) and I asked him the other day what he named it he said "Democrat". True story I thought I was going to die laughing :roflmao:

timonahan
10-29-2008, 05:24 PM
Still trying to figure out why palin does nto belong on the ticket when she is the only on out of the four who has ever worked a budget. If we go be experience then Obama should not be on the ticket either. She has beena Gov as long as he has been in Senate. So many people are just media sheep (as said before). In fact my son as a stuffed animal (sheep) and I asked him the other day what he named it he said "Democrat". True story I thought I was going to die laughing :roflmao:

:confused:

vetsgt02
10-29-2008, 05:34 PM
Sorry Tim I am at work and was typing fast trying to get done so I could go finish something. I can see how it turned out to be a hot mess more than a orginaized thought LOL. Sorry ;)

Migraine
10-29-2008, 06:01 PM
Im out of here, nice chat as always. I just saw this in an other thread, love it...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzyT9-9lUyE


Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out. Plus don't use my lame material.

Blitzburgh
10-29-2008, 09:32 PM
dude, you don't work and play well with others do you.

there are ways to get your views out there without telling everyone else their view is wrong.


I disagree with a lot of things in this thread, but you are the one who tends to get nasty about stuff and your opinion is the only one that counts.

Maybe try at least seeing someone else's point of view once in a while, it might help.

Hey Tim thanks for the heads up. I will really try harder.

Blitzburgh
10-29-2008, 09:38 PM
Still trying to figure out why palin does not belong on the ticket when she is the only one out of the four who has ever worked a budget. If we go be experience then Obama should not be on the ticket either. She has been a Gov just as long as Obama has been in Senate. So many people are just media sheep (as said before).


In fact my son has a stuffed animal (sheep) and I asked him the other day what he named it he said "Democrat". True story I thought I was going to die laughing :roflmao:

Thats great, teaching your kid well...:ban:

She's a moron, thats why. She's had the chance to speak to the public now for quite some time on the "Straight Talk" express, and she folds miserably weekly. Her interviews were straight comedy, she's declared herself a "middle class hockey mom" (who by the way makes seven figures). And as of tonight she has talked about running for President in 2012 if this ticket doesnt work out (MCcain campaign not happy,video on CNN). She is a worse speaker than GWB, and for christ sake, the VP of the US who represents me, at the very least, should be able to speak clearly... NOT LIKE THIS BABBLING MORON SEEN IN THIS CLIP.

http://www.break.com/index/crazy-protester-interrupts-palin-interview.html

andy
10-29-2008, 10:07 PM
Thats great, teaching your kid well...:ban:

She's a moron, thats why. She's had the chance to speak to the public now for quite some time on the "Straight Talk" express, and she folds miserably weekly. Her interviews were straight comedy, she's declared herself a "middle class hockey mom" (who by the way makes seven figures). And as of tonight she has talked about running for President in 2012 if this ticket doesnt work out (MCcain campaign not happy,video on CNN). She is a worse speaker than GWB, and for christ sake, the VP of the US who represents me, at the very least, should be able to speak clearly... NOT LIKE THIS BABBLING MORON SEEN IN THIS CLIP.

http://www.break.com/index/crazy-protester-interrupts-palin-interview.html

*ignoring the end*

I'm no fan of Palin and think she being on the ticket is a great reason to vote Obama, but I do not think it is so much that she babbles or doesn't know what magazine or newspaper she reads, but more likely she has been mishandled and given very bad advice throughout this entire process. She certainly does not have the "political intelligence" to be vice president. I'd say she is a much better speaker than W and McCain.

vetsgt02
10-29-2008, 11:36 PM
I am proud that my sons is 6 and can already tell the democrats are sheep!! Shows he is smarter than half the clowns around here. He also loves the military and tells the soldiers when he see them thank you and that he is proud of them. I am very proud of the job I have done so far thank you very much

Seahawcla
10-30-2008, 12:47 AM
I am proud that my sons is 6 and can already tell the democrats are sheep!! Shows he is smarter than half the clowns around here. He also loves the military and tells the soldiers when he see them thank you and that he is proud of them. I am very proud of the job I have done so far thank you very much

While I dont vote party line, I voted more republicans then democrats on my ballot I just sent in.

Of course your son has your views, I can tell how parents feel and which ones are racist pieholes just from hearing the ignorance that comes from their mouths.

I am not a clown or a sheep and I can guarantee I dont lack intelligence because I voted Obama. And research shows the higher the IQ the more of the lean to the left politically ;)

Its not a party thing, its doing the job right.

It came down to me liking Obama's direction on Foreign Policy. I also feel the Republican ticket spent too much time attacking the Dems stance and not clearly laying out how are they going to help 95% that Obama claims he is helping.

There is no reason to get this personal, I disagree with many people here on key issues and can stay above the filth.

oregonweim
10-30-2008, 07:54 AM
Ooooo a Foxnews.com link

Speaking of poor judgement and college ... McCain's naval academy class rank was 894 of 899. Way to apply yourself John ;)

:lollol:

first thing I thought

Blitzburgh
10-30-2008, 08:28 AM
I am proud that my sons is 6 and can already tell the democrats are sheep!! Shows he is smarter than half the clowns around here. He also loves the military and tells the soldiers when he see them thank you and that he is proud of them. I am very proud of the job I have done so far thank you very much

Great, hopefully one day he will be able to think for himself instead of what daddy taught him to make fun of at such a young age...

It's obvious you and I don't agree on most anything. I however at least think for myself. Call me a sheep all you want because I voted Democrat, I think you are just hiding something deep down inside of your consciousness wishing you could think for yourself...

vetsgt02
10-30-2008, 09:38 AM
While I dont vote party line, I voted more republicans then democrats on my ballot I just sent in.

Of course your son has your views, I can tell how parents feel and which ones are racist pieholes just from hearing the ignorance that comes from their mouths.

I am not a clown or a sheep and I can guarantee I dont lack intelligence because I voted Obama. And research shows the higher the IQ the more of the lean to the left politically ;)

Its not a party thing, its doing the job right.

It came down to me liking Obama's direction on Foreign Policy. I also feel the Republican ticket spent too much time attacking the Dems stance and not clearly laying out how are they going to help 95% that Obama claims he is helping.

There is no reason to get this personal, I disagree with many people here on key issues and can stay above the filth.


Every child has their parents views. When i was 18 I regestered Dem because both my parents voted for Clinton. I was in the Army for 2 years when I noticed that MY views where alot more to the right and I changed my party. I would vote for a DEM if I fill they are the right person for the job it just so happens I do not think Obama is. I really like Richardson but he did not have the money to compete with Obama and Clinton. I would not mind seeing him run in 2012 as long as he does nto have to go against Clinton. When my son gets older he will chose for himself right now he hers the stuff on TV and my wife and I talk and picks up what he hears. I did not teach him the Dems are sheep but in this election i do think he was on the right track.

You are right this does not need to be personal it is just Americans not agreeing. I think it is great we are still allowed to that in this country. :D

DNoz29
10-30-2008, 01:37 PM
While I dont vote party line, I voted more republicans then democrats on my ballot I just sent in.

Of course your son has your views, I can tell how parents feel and which ones are racist pieholes just from hearing the ignorance that comes from their mouths.

I am not a clown or a sheep and I can guarantee I dont lack intelligence because I voted Obama. And research shows the higher the IQ the more of the lean to the left politically ;)

Its not a party thing, its doing the job right.

It came down to me liking Obama's direction on Foreign Policy. I also feel the Republican ticket spent too much time attacking the Dems stance and not clearly laying out how are they going to help 95% that Obama claims he is helping.

There is no reason to get this personal, I disagree with many people here on key issues and can stay above the filth.
Seriously, why can't all political discussions be like this?

Stupid people and their egos (pretty much everyone... myself included). :lollol:

vetsgt02
10-30-2008, 01:50 PM
Again I did not meen for it to come off as bashing you guys here. I understand there are sheep in both parties. I thought the story was funny because I had never told him that or even used the term before then. It came out of left feild when he said it and I thought it was funny. Sorry if I cam across liek I was bashing anyone on here I should have been less judgmental in my posting. I enjoy this forum and think of everyone here as a freind. even if I disagree politcaly with 70-90% of you :)