View Full Version : Selling Cards on Consignment at Nationals
oregonweim
06-21-2007, 01:39 PM
A few people have PM'd/contacted me regarding this, and I don't have an issue with it but will have to figure out some guidelines/rules. So, use this thread to give some feedback....
My initial thoughts as I write this now are....
*You'll need to write out for each card submitted the card specifics: Player name, set, year, BOOK VALUE, ASKING PRICE, MINIMUM PRICE (be realistic wihtout being greedy :D);
*There will be a flat handling fee paid to TCG;
*If you want showcase space, $5 a card. If you want it in a box, $1 a card; This will be deducted from any sales you make (eg, you won't be charged both ways);
*People at the table will get 10% cut of final value (even if it sells at your minimum so keep that in mind) to help cover their cost/expense...
Thoughts, suggestions?
I would suggest that they be cards with a value of 75 or more...
Bounty13
06-21-2007, 02:23 PM
I'm fine with the $5, but 10%? How about if I tell you I want $100 for a card, you can start it at like $150 and get chewed down to $125, you can keep whatever money its sold for over my want price.
sliqwill
06-21-2007, 02:46 PM
I'm fine with the $5, but 10%? How about if I tell you I want $100 for a card, you can start it at like $150 and get chewed down to $125, you can keep whatever money its sold for over my want price.
im getting the feeling that the 10% is a 'discount' for those who are willing to work the table for awhile ;)
ive got a few cards id like to get in the case that i will bring out with me and we can talk there...also if you want me to hang out at the table id be down with that for a few hours the days im there so you can stroll about or whatever...:salut:
The 10% might be a bit high. I would suggest that you either nerf it or lower it to about 2% - maybe do an Ebay like structure.
Zeeck
06-21-2007, 02:57 PM
10% seems pretty reasonable to me, actually. If you look at people who do eBay consignments, they'll charge anywhere from 10 percent to 50 percent with the average fee being about 30 percent.
Jerry!Jerry!
06-21-2007, 03:02 PM
I think it should be EITHER 10% overall OR a flat handling fee plus other costs for where your card is etc.
oregonweim
06-21-2007, 03:06 PM
We want to help members, but keep in mind that each of us are spending roughly $1000 in table, hotel, gas and food. I'm not saying we are trying to gouge you and we want to help people out, but there needs to be some quid pro quo. What I would say is maybe that we do the above structure, etc, but we cap per card... meaning, if you sold a 500 card it is $50, you sell a $900 card, it is $50 type thing (eg a cap of 50).
?
Jerry!Jerry!
06-21-2007, 03:06 PM
are you setting up at the table?
nope. now shut up.
you shut your mouth when you're talking to me.
oregonweim
06-21-2007, 03:08 PM
lol, children play nice :D
seahawks4ever
06-21-2007, 03:08 PM
are you setting up at the table?
nope. now shut up.
you shut your mouth when you're talking to me.
:pop::pop::pop:
jaymix79
06-21-2007, 03:40 PM
How much would you charge to sell a box of commons :cheers: :lollol:
oregonweim
06-21-2007, 03:44 PM
I'm fine with the $5, but 10%? How about if I tell you I want $100 for a card, you can start it at like $150 and get chewed down to $125, you can keep whatever money its sold for over my want price.
the only issue there is ensuring your want price isn't at fair market value. Just from walking around, unless it is a hot player/set/card, things sell at or slightly below ebay, but it really comes down to how much/how fast you want things to move. Traffic means a lot of people and a lot of 'impulse buy' opportunities, but you only get those buyers if you are priced out (and that is assuming you are targeting those buyers). A lot of dealers price theirselves to the point where if you buy it and tried to sell it you wouldn't get a dollar more than they paid.
Randy
06-21-2007, 05:09 PM
Here is my outlook on this topic
You will have to pay a shipping charge so that the card can get to a member going to the show, then a $5 handling fee to the member, then 10% of what the card sells for.
So a card goes for $150, you pay $5 to ship with insurance to the member of TCG, $5 handling fee, and $15 for 10% of the final price. Out $20, that is if the card even goes for what someone wants out of it.
And that is just for one card, so if someone had 10 cards that could go for that much.
Say $8 for shipping the cards
$50 in handling fees to the TCG members
$150 for the percentage of the sell
Out $208 of a possiable $1500
If you have 5 members with cards that sell for that much the table is paid for.
Just kinda bogus if you ask me
I am not here to start anything, just speaking out loud.
seahawks4ever
06-21-2007, 05:11 PM
Thank you for the chance Mr. Brett sir but unfortunately my cards suck fat donkey nuts and I think it would cost more to ship them than it would to sell them :D
Here is my outlook on this topic
You will have to pay a shipping charge so that the card can get to a member going to the show, then a $5 handling fee to the member, then 10% of what the card sells for.
So a card goes for $150, you pay $5 to ship with insurance to the member of TCG, $5 handling fee, and $15 for 10% of the final price. Out $20, that is if the card even goes for what someone wants out of it.
And that is just for one card, so if someone had 10 cards that could go for that much.
Say $8 for shipping the cards
$50 in handling fees to the TCG members
$150 for the percentage of the sell
Out $208 of a possiable $1500
If you have 5 members with cards that sell for that much the table is paid for.
Just kinda bogus if you ask me
I am not here to start anything, just speaking out loud.
Brett,
I would honestly think about something like this:
$1 or 10% of sale - whichever is higher to put in the box.
$5 or 10% of sale - whichever is higher to put in showcase.
cmixer
06-21-2007, 05:26 PM
from a business standpoint, this structure looks legit -
IF it doesn't sell, you're not out much -
if it does, you sold your card better or = to eBAY.
After gas & lodging, that table is EXPENSIVE!
+ no one is MAKING you consign -
infinite1
06-21-2007, 05:27 PM
I'm fine with the $5, but 10%? How about if I tell you I want $100 for a card, you can start it at like $150 and get chewed down to $125, you can keep whatever money its sold for over my want price.
This is how it usually works for cards at shows that aren't dealers, the people give them a certain price, dealers get more profit the rest...
oregonweim
06-21-2007, 05:31 PM
What do people think about Lisa's idea... Like i said, this thread is to figure something out, nothing has been written yet... :salut:
detox
06-21-2007, 05:50 PM
My vote goes for no consignment at all.:salut:
CommodoreCountry
06-21-2007, 06:00 PM
I've never been to the National, and I assume it is important to have a large selection of cards there, but my opinion for those who are paying for the tables:
Bear in mind that when people come to shows they have money they want to spend. They will either spend it in your showcase or the next guy's, but If everyone loads your showcase with TCG cards, they're making money, you're making 10% and you are also not getting the buyers money in your own pocket from your cards.
I don't know if I explained it well enough, but I know from experience selling cards for people, that it sucks when you work hard to sell a $200 card and get $20 when you could have sold your own $200 card to them and pocketed the $200.
Bounty13
06-21-2007, 06:00 PM
Well regardless if no one sends you any cards, you are still paying for the table/food/hotel/airfare. And you are always going to have someone sitting at the table. So if you accept 20 cards to sell that’s an extra $100 that you didn’t have.
I would be fine with $5 or 5% whichever is greater.
Bounty13
06-21-2007, 06:03 PM
I've never been to the National, and I assume it is important to have a large selection of cards there, but my opinion for those who are paying for the tables:
Bear in mind that when people come to shows they have money they want to spend. They will either spend it in your showcase or the next guy's, but If everyone loads your showcase with TCG cards, they're making money, you're making 10% and you are also not getting the buyers money in your own pocket from your cards.
I don't know if I explained it well enough, but I know from experience selling cards for people, that it sucks when you work hard to sell a $200 card and get $20 when you could have sold your own $200 card to them and pocketed the $200.
But its selling a card you don't own and making $20. If the card was not there, you'd make nothing.
CommodoreCountry
06-21-2007, 06:12 PM
But its selling a card you don't own and making $20. If the card was not there, you'd make nothing.
There's where you're wrong. The card they want is always in your showcase, you just have to help them find it. That's where the salesman aspect of dealing at shows comes into play. It's not about selection or not having their favorite player ... it's human psychology - they want to spend the money - if not with you, with someone else. You've just got to talk them into something you've got. ;)
pitnlala
06-21-2007, 06:16 PM
I cant decide if this thread is about a few elitist robber-barron TCG members taking advantage of the less priviledged,
or
a bunch of cheapskate crybabies who want something for nothing.
:pop::pop:
;)
detox
06-21-2007, 06:42 PM
bad idea...not just yours, but bretts now that I think of it. shouldn't be $5 showcase fee which is deducted if it sells. Should be a $5 fee just for being in the showcase, even if it doesn't sell.
That's like renting an apartment, living there for a week, saying you don't like it, move out, and not pay for your time spent.
lets put it this way....
we need money for drinks. Plain and simple. We're going to drink regardless, but if we try and move your stuff, we should be compensated with shots of patron.
so basically we aren't making any money off anybody, we're just getting drunk on your behalf.
so 10% plus up front fees sounds good.
don't like it, blow us
I think everyone should send us $5 for a shot.
lumm0x
06-21-2007, 06:48 PM
As long as there are drunken pics of Grant rolling in a pile of member's card (or just members :surprised: ) then it's all good. :dance:
As long as there are drunken pics of Grant rolling in a pile of member's card (or just members :surprised: ) then it's all good. :dance:
I concur, but you would have to include both dans in that as well...
seahawks4ever
06-21-2007, 06:52 PM
ill mushroom stamp each and every card that everybody brings
just wait for people to touch the cases, then bite their nails and wake up with a cold sore
OH GAWD!!! THE MENTAL PICTURE BURNS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
detox
06-21-2007, 06:54 PM
ill mushroom stamp each and every card that everybody brings
just wait for people to touch the cases, then bite their nails and wake up with a cold sore
Im calling tnarg HERP all weekend
detox
06-21-2007, 07:10 PM
bad idea...not just yours, but bretts now that I think of it. shouldn't be $5 showcase fee which is deducted if it sells. Should be a $5 fee just for being in the showcase, even if it doesn't sell.
That's like renting an apartment, living there for a week, saying you don't like it, move out, and not pay for your time spent.
lets put it this way....
we need money for drinks. Plain and simple. We're going to drink regardless, but if we try and move your stuff, we should be compensated with shots of patron.
so basically we aren't making any money off anybody, we're just getting drunk on your behalf.
so 10% plus up front fees sounds good.
don't like it, blow us
let me add to this brilliant idea.
It should be $5/per day/ per card. Showcase space is valuable.
oregonweim
06-21-2007, 07:29 PM
This thread did not go as planned :doh:
seahawks4ever
06-21-2007, 07:31 PM
This thread did not go as planned :doh:
What did you expect? Not a single freakin thread ever stays on topic. You started with a plan to sell other peoples cards and ended up with Grant pecker-slapping every card at your booth.
Nice, isn't it?:lollol:
lumm0x
06-21-2007, 07:33 PM
This thread did not go as planned :doh:
Evolution :cheers:
seahawks4ever
06-21-2007, 07:35 PM
OUR booth, not just his
damnit i paid my 200
oh my god! That was a HUGE oversight on my part.
Sorry Brett, Grants gonna pecker slap every card at y'alls booth.
oregonweim
06-21-2007, 07:37 PM
my showcases lock... and since i'm bringing all the showcases :salut:
seahawks4ever
06-21-2007, 07:39 PM
you mean Grant's Vienna won't be able to touch your cards in the showcase? Sad for grantie_poo!!!!
jaymix79
06-21-2007, 08:11 PM
I think that the people who send cards to Brett and Grant and whoever else is going should have to pay. The tables at Nationals are not cheap and remember more room that people take up is taking sells away from Brett since he cannot display all of his cards. Maybe a $2 a day for the showcase and then 10% of the sale to them. It is only fair. I also feel if this thread does not solve anything to drop the whole idea.
My 7 cents
JM
b70x7n
06-21-2007, 08:35 PM
I concur, but you would have to include both dans in that as well...
:shifty:
oregonweim
06-25-2007, 03:14 PM
damn, this thread is still here...
:cheers:
:lollol::lollol::lollol:
timonahan
06-25-2007, 04:04 PM
How about anyone who doesn't want to pay what is being asked just doesn't send any cards.
Considering someone will take, display, and sell a card for you, I think anything they are asking for is fair.
seahawks4ever
06-25-2007, 04:17 PM
How about anyone who doesn't want to pay what is being asked just doesn't send any cards.
Considering someone will take, display, and sell a card for you, I think anything they are asking for is fair.
My crappy-ass cards are staying in a crappy-ass box in my crappy-ass apartment. :salut:
seahawks4ever
06-25-2007, 04:19 PM
Use charmin ultra. It will help rid you of your crappy ass
good tip. Plus its super soft on my bootie!
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