View Full Version : Wonderlic Scores (Stafford & Sanchez)
redandpewter55
03-21-2009, 11:25 PM
Stafford - 38
Sanchez - 28
Those were the top 2.
:cheers:
lumm0x
03-21-2009, 11:26 PM
every one else was below 28.....
sffanmike25
03-22-2009, 01:01 AM
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-22-pompei-scout-mar22,0,7151782.story
Here's a story with some other scores. Will look for the full list at some point soon.
rexvos
03-22-2009, 06:37 AM
remember Alex Smith (QB) had one of the highest wonderlic scores ever. So that test means little to nothing.
ernieren
03-22-2009, 07:33 AM
Vince Young had the lowest test as well
bamasa37sb34
03-22-2009, 09:49 AM
Never understood the point of wonderlic for football. Better yet, I never understood how Junior Rosegreen got a 2 on it :doh:
Kinda like a 40 yard dash for OL and DT :confused: It doesn't have any effect at all on how the player plays the game so why waste time on it?
vetsgt02
03-22-2009, 10:38 AM
I think the test is really worthwhile. I mean V Young had a horrible score at it was right on that he could not handle any kind of preasure. I think it helps show how fast a player can think of the top of their head which is pretty important for some spots like QB
bamasa37sb34
03-22-2009, 10:45 AM
I think the test is really worthwhile. I mean V Young had a horrible score at it was right on that he could not handle any kind of preasure. I think it helps show how fast a player can think of the top of their head which is pretty important for some spots like QB
Alex Smith got a 40. Most of the members of this site could probably move ahead of him on the depth chart. Dan Marino and Terry Bradshaw got 15 on their scores.....they turned out OK.
bamasa37sb34
03-22-2009, 10:49 AM
http://www.unc.edu/~mirabile/Wonderlic.htm
Link to QB wonderlic scores. Personally, I don't see much correlation between this test and being a successful NFL QB, but I didn't exactly spend much time breaking down the stats.
lumm0x
03-22-2009, 11:12 AM
I've taken the test a couple times during job interviews. As for the sport, I think the test is relevant but by no means the sole indicator of potential success as a player. Some players may be dumb as a post but have inane game instincts that take over. These tests can be practiced and even a twit can get pretty good at consistent decent scores simply through methods and repetition.
Drew Henson got a 42 :shock:
Too bad the test doesn't mean you can hit a curveball or play QB :doh:
oregonweim
03-22-2009, 12:22 PM
Drew Henson got a 42 :shock:
Too bad the test doesn't mean you can hit a curveball or play QB :doh:
this lol
AUTaxMan
03-22-2009, 12:38 PM
It definitely makes a difference at the QB and O-line positions in telling you who NOT to draft. High scores are meaningless, but low scores are very meaningful.
bamasa37sb34
03-22-2009, 12:46 PM
It definitely makes a difference at the QB and O-line positions in telling you who NOT to draft. High scores are meaningless, but low scores are very meaningful.
Dan Marino, Terry Bradshaw, Seneca Wallace, David Garrard, Daute Culpepper, Donovan McNabb, Aaron Brooks, Steve McNair, Jeff Blake, Elvis Grbac, Neil O'Donnell, Vinny Testaverde, Randall Cunningham, and Jim Kelly all respectfully disagree that you do not need to score above a 20 to have a successful or HOF type career. A crap load of other guys prove that being smart doesn't mean you can sling a football around :salut:
sffanmike25
03-22-2009, 04:30 PM
Dan Marino, Terry Bradshaw, Seneca Wallace, David Garrard, Daute Culpepper, Donovan McNabb, Aaron Brooks, Steve McNair, Jeff Blake, Elvis Grbac, Neil O'Donnell, Vinny Testaverde, Randall Cunningham, and Jim Kelly all respectfully disagree that you do not need to score above a 20 to have a successful or HOF type career. A crap load of other guys prove that being smart doesn't mean you can sling a football around :salut:
With all this being said for what usually is a meaningless indicator, I now think you have to put a red flag on the super high scores and the super low scores. :lollol: The high score guys might just sit in the pocket and think the whole time (like Alex has done), and the low score guys just sit around and don't run the play at all (or just flat out run instead like Vince).
The middle tier scores should be appreciated the most, as you should be smart enough to know what you are doing, but still be "dumb" enough to take a few calculated risks a game (as those can win big games).
*forwards this concept to Kiper, McShay, and Mayock* :lollol:
AUTaxMan
03-22-2009, 06:46 PM
Dan Marino, Terry Bradshaw, Seneca Wallace, David Garrard, Daute Culpepper, Donovan McNabb, Aaron Brooks, Steve McNair, Jeff Blake, Elvis Grbac, Neil O'Donnell, Vinny Testaverde, Randall Cunningham, and Jim Kelly all respectfully disagree that you do not need to score above a 20 to have a successful or HOF type career. A crap load of other guys prove that being smart doesn't mean you can sling a football around :salut:
You could probably find 10x more dummy qbs who bombed in the nfl. If the test didn't mean anything, they wouldn't make the guys take it.
bamasa37sb34
03-22-2009, 06:52 PM
You could probably find 10x more dummy qbs who bombed in the nfl. If the test didn't mean anything, they wouldn't make the guys take it.
I don't see the correlation between awesomeness and a high wonderlic score. I don't see the correlation between sucking and having a low score.
Why not watch some film, measure some physical attributes, and determine who can play football and not who can make an educated guess on the square root of 179 and who can name these 4 European countries in order from east to west.
ar1888
03-22-2009, 07:30 PM
Percy Harvin 12- God I hope the Colts dont draft him:sick:
bamasa37sb34
03-22-2009, 07:35 PM
Percy Harvin 12- God I hope the Colts dont draft him:sick:
Really? I guess then you've been pretty bummed out about having Reggie Wayne (13) and Marvin Harrison (12) hanging around the Colts for the last few years ;)
sffanmike25
03-22-2009, 07:42 PM
Really? I guess then you've been pretty bummed out about having Reggie Wayne (13) and Marvin Harrison (12) hanging around the Colts for the last few years ;)
:lollol: Good point there. It really requires no wonderlic-based intellect to catch or run with the ball. If I had to guess which positions it might be necessary for, I'd guess it would be QB, Middle Linebacker, and the Safety positions. The positions that require a player to think on their feet and organize other groups of players/play sets in a short time.
ar1888
03-22-2009, 07:46 PM
Really? I guess then you've been pretty bummed out about having Reggie Wayne (13) and Marvin Harrison (12) hanging around the Colts for the last few years ;)
It has nothing to do with Harvins Wonderlic score, I just plain dont like Florida wide receivers. I think hes going to join the long list of Florida bust Wrs- Chad Jackson, Andre Caldwell,Reche Caldwell,Travis Taylor, Reidel Anthony,Taylor Jacobs, everyone of them were going to be the one to break the cycle. Im sure I"ve have left a few off the list. His wonderlic score just gave me an excuse to bring up how I feel.
ar1888
03-22-2009, 07:47 PM
I also forgot Jabar Gaffney.
ar1888
03-22-2009, 07:49 PM
And Darrell Jackson
bamasa37sb34
03-22-2009, 07:51 PM
I just took a partial wonderlic test and projected at a 44..........think any teams would take me as an undrafted free agent :pray:
ar1888
03-22-2009, 07:52 PM
I also forgot Jacquez Green.
bamasa37sb34
03-22-2009, 07:54 PM
I also forgot Jacquez Green.
This is going to be a loooooooooong thread :lollol:
Up next: failed UF QBs! Stay tuned!
redandpewter55
03-22-2009, 11:26 PM
Percy Harvin 12- God I hope the Colts dont draft him:sick:
One of the guy that gives the Wonderlic test says that a 10 is literacy.
:cheers:
Jerry!Jerry!
03-23-2009, 09:35 AM
If the scores didn't matter they wouldn't bother testing them. Some people are looking at this the wrong way. It's not an all or nothing indicator, just like Arm strength isn't an all or nothing indicator(see Jamarcus Russell)
rexvos
03-23-2009, 10:07 AM
One of the guy that gives the Wonderlic test says that a 10 is literacy.
:cheers:
Didn't Vince Young get a 9?
AUTaxMan
03-23-2009, 10:10 AM
One of the guy that gives the Wonderlic test says that a 10 is literacy.
:cheers:
Are you sure that's right? I always understood Wonderlic to be less of an intelligence test and more of a test of one's judgment/ability to think on one's feet.
sffanmike25
03-23-2009, 10:14 AM
Didn't Vince Young get a 9?
I think that was on his 2nd try. He reportedly got a 6 the first time he took it.
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