Les Miles putting up bulletin board material, stay classy!

[Seahawcla]

Maybe Les should bring the Tigers to the Pacific Time Zone for a few games instead of bringing our bottom halfers into his place ;)

I agree the SEC is tops in football, but the PAC is good football conference with solid depth.



And where I found it at sportingnews

No offense, Les, but Pac-10 is plenty tough (http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=232046)

[rexvos]

do not have to read the article to know that Les Miles is an idiot... that being said the Pac 10 is 1 team. The rest of the conference is garbage, and LSU played Auburn, Tennessee, and Florida (the National Champions on the road last year) when a team in the Pac 10 or any other conference for that matter has to play that tough a schedule in conference then they can talk about out of conference. Tennessee played Cal last year and beat them worse than a dime store hooker

[oregonweim]

Linky no work.... (to Les Miles comments)

Here is what is funny, take Phil Steeles college guide. He lists SEC based on all the numbers he runs and such as the toughest conference, think Pac 10 2nd or 4th. But, when he puts out which teams have the toughest schedules, all 10 Pac 10 teams are in the top 15, don't think the first SEC is until the 30s. Considering you play 75% of your games against conference opponents, just seems funny that they aren't ranked higher.

Of course it is all mute, all the Pac 10 has to do is win their big non conference games again.... Ohio state, Michican, Tenn, etc...

[rexvos]

by the way Cal needs to replace that Bear paw on the side of the helmet with a Vagina -- it is more fitting.

[oregonweim]

by the way Cal needs to replace that Bear paw on the side of the helmet with a Vagina -- it is more fitting.

Volunteers are going to get spanked by the birkenstocks :lollol::lollol:

[rexvos]

Volunteers are going to get spanked by the birkenstocks :lollol::lollol:

Tennessee is good early in the season on the road and at home, it is later in the season that they fold.

[redandpewter55]

SEC > Everyone Else

Someone should put together a list of all the current NCAA champions. I bet the SEC hold most of them. :salut:

And everyone knows the SEC is the best in Football.

[oregonweim]

SEC > Everyone Else

Someone should put together a list of all the current NCAA champions. I bet the SEC hold most of them. :salut:

And everyone knows the SEC is the best in Football.

While we respect people in the looney bin, we try not to listen to them :D

[oregonweim]

Arkansas State
California :clap:
Chattanooga (Little Rock)
Clemson
Eastern Kentucky
Eastern Michigan
Florida Atlantic x2
Florida international
Gardner-Webb
Georgia Tech
Houston
Kansas State
Kent State
Louisiana Lft x2
Louisiana Tech x2
Louisville :clap:
Memphis
Miami, OH
Missouri
Middle Tennessee
New Mexico State
North Carolina
North Texas
Northwestern State
Oklahoma State
Richmond :doh:
South Carolina State
Southern Mississippi
Tennesse Tech
Troy x3
Tulane x2
UAB
ULM (University Louisiana Monroe)
USF
Virginia Tech :clap:
Wake Forest
Western Carolina x2
Western Kentucky
West Virginia :clap:


Boise St
BYU x2
Cincinnati
Colorado
Colorado St
Fresno State
Hawaii
Houston
Idaho x2
Idaho State :doh:
Louisiana Tech
Michigan
Nebraska
New Mexico
Northern Arizona :doh:
Notre Dame x3
Ohio State
San Diego State x2
San Jose State x2
Syracuse
TCU
Tennessee
Utah x2
Wisconsin

[sffanmike25]

I'm assuming that is the out of conference opponents for the SEC and Pac-10, correct?

[Seahawcla]

SEC
Arkansas State :doh:
California :clap:
Chattanooga (Little Rock) :doh:
Clemson
Eastern Kentucky :doh:
Eastern Michigan
Florida Atlantic x2
Florida international
Gardner-Webb :doh:
Georgia Tech
Houston
Kansas State
Kent State
Louisiana Lft x2
Louisiana Tech x2
Louisville :clap:
Memphis
Miami, OH
Missouri
Middle Tennessee
New Mexico State
North Carolina
North Texas :doh:
Northwestern State :doh:
Oklahoma State
Richmond :doh:
South Carolina State :doh:
Southern Mississippi
Tennesse Tech :doh:
Troy x3
Tulane x2
UAB
ULM (University Louisiana Monroe)
USF
Virginia Tech :clap:
Wake Forest
Western Carolina x2 :doh::doh:
Western Kentucky :doh:
West Virginia :clap:

PAC-10
Boise St :clap:
BYU x2
Cincinnati
Colorado
Colorado St
Fresno State
Hawaii
Houston
Idaho x2
Idaho State :doh:
Louisiana Tech
Michigan:clap:
Nebraska:clap:
New Mexico
Northern Arizona :doh:
Notre Dame x3:clap:
Ohio State:clap:
San Diego State x2
San Jose State x2
Syracuse
TCU
Tennessee:clap:
Utah x2
Wisconsin:clap:

Edited to highlight just Sun Belt/D-II

[redandpewter55]

Everyone always brings up the out of conference games. The PAC-10 has to bring in big teams because the PAC-10 is weak. The SEC is strong from top to bottom and then everyone wants them to bring in more big teams to play. :boohoo:

[oregonweim]

Everyone always brings up the out of conference games. The PAC-10 has to bring in big teams because the PAC-10 is weak. The SEC is strong from top to bottom and then everyone wants them to bring in more big teams to play. :boohoo:

:boohoo::boohoo::boohoo:


Sadly, we'll only have one chance to whip the sec head to head, at least until a BCS bowl :D

[rexvos]

do not have to read the article to know that Les Miles is an idiot... that being said the Pac 10 is 1 team. The rest of the conference is garbage, andLSU played Auburn, Tennessee, and Florida (the National Champions on the road last year) when a team in the Pac 10 or any other conference for that matter has to play that tough a schedule in conference then they can talk about out of conference. Tennessee played Cal last year and beat them worse than a dime store hooker

all of the other conferences produce one or two big success stories a year last year it was Ohio State (and they showed pretty quick that they could not hang with the speed and power of an SEC power)... USC is good every year, the entire Big 12 was down last year... Wisconsin proved they were elite team by their regular season and bowl win... but what Pac 10 team in the last 10 or 20 years has done anything besides USC... all I hear is crickets....

[redandpewter55]

all of the other conferences produce one or two big success stories a year last year it was Ohio State (and they showed pretty quick that they could not hang with the speed and power of an SEC power)... USC is good every year, the entire Big 12 was down last year... Wisconsin proved they were elite team by their regular season and bowl win... but what Pac 10 team in the last 10 or 20 years has done anything besides USC... all I hear is crickets....
I wish I could find Jarvis Moss's quote after the Florida/Ohio State game. Something about there are 6 teams in the SEC that would do that same to Ohio State that Florida did.

[oregonweim]

Actually pac 10 is much more balanced than the SEC, with exception of last couple years under Carrol, there have been many different members stepping up to win the conference crown. Oregon had just come off something like a 20-4 conference record and back to back titles. What amuses me (and I know some others) is one of the main claims to fame of the SEC fans is that they beat themselves, but look what happens when they play out of conference consistently. LSU almost lost to a middle of the road Beavers squad, and should have except for that horrible kicking night (blame voodoo) :D Arkansas got manhandled. Tenn did crush Cal last year, with a ton of big 40 plus td plays (what 6). Don't expect that to happen on the road. Not to mention, Pac 10 plays their entire conference each year, no free passes. Granted it just started, but before they played at least 8 of the 9 opponents. I'm not saying SEC teams are the MAC, they just need to get over themselves some :D

[rexvos]

Actually pac 10 is much more balanced than the SEC, with exception of last couple years under Carrol, there have been many different members stepping up to win the conference crown. Oregon had just come off something like a 20-4 conference record and back to back titles. What amuses me (and I know some others) is one of the main claims to fame of the SEC fans is that they beat themselves, but look what happens when they play out of conference consistently. LSU almost lost to a middle of the road Beavers squad, and should have except for that horrible kicking night (blame voodoo) :D Arkansas got manhandled. Tenn did crush Cal last year, with a ton of big 40 plus td plays (what 6). Don't expect that to happen on the road. Not to mention, Pac 10 plays their entire conference each year, no free passes. Granted it just started, but before they played at least 8 of the 9 opponents. I'm not saying SEC teams are the MAC, they just need to get over themselves some :D

after Katrina where a lot of those kids had their homes destroyed... and almost is not a loss.

[oregonweim]

no no, this is way before Katrina... remember joey kept calling me that night pulling his hair out :D

[rexvos]

Actually pac 10 is much more balanced than the SEC, with exception of last couple years under Carrol, there have been many different members stepping up to win the conference crown. Oregon had just come off something like a 20-4 conference record and back to back titles. What amuses me (and I know some others) is one of the main claims to fame of the SEC fans is that they beat themselves, but look what happens when they play out of conference consistently. LSU almost lost to a middle of the road Beavers squad, and should have except for that horrible kicking night (blame voodoo) :D Arkansas got manhandled. Tenn did crush Cal last year, with a ton of big 40 plus td plays (what 6). Don't expect that to happen on the road. Not to mention, Pac 10 plays their entire conference each year, no free passes. Granted it just started, but before they played at least 8 of the 9 opponents. I'm not saying SEC teams are the MAC, they just need to get over themselves some :D

and also, no they do not need to get over themselves... the only reason why idiots on the coasts east and west do not all universally recognize the SEC is the elite conference is that the media pushes right and left coast schools (Notre Dame, Michigan, USC, and other schools down our throats)... the other schools get all the media hype. People talk about a USC three-peat with LSU as the after thought, when LSU won the BCS crown, the way the Colleges decided to name a champion.

I wish I could play the Pac 10 every year -- we might lose a few to USC, but when it comes down to it

Florida
LSU
Georgia
Auburn
Tennessee
South Carolina
Alabama
Arkansas

is better than the top from any other conference...

the only way to match up with them is if you took these schools and put them in one conference

USC
Texas
Oklahoma
Wisconsin
Michigan
Florida State
Notre Dame
Miami

[rexvos]

no no, this is way before Katrina... remember joey kept calling me that night pulling his hair out :D

no it wasn't, they had to play at Oregon State as a "home game" because it was scheduled originally in Baton Rouge

[oregonweim]

no it wasn't, they had to play at Oregon State as a "home game" because it was scheduled originally in Baton Rouge

Mike, Katrina hit in August of 2005, Oregon State played in that rain squall in September ish 2004 (whenever opening day was)

[rexvos]

Mike, Katrina hit in August of 2005, Oregon State played in that rain squall in September ish 2004 (whenever opening day was)

you are right what an embarrassment. I probably have to hang myself in my closet if we lost to those cowards, good thing we won that game.

[oregonweim]

you are right what an embarrassment. I probably have to hang myself in my closet if we lost to those cowards, good thing we won that game.

you are thinking the Arizona State game they won in the Sun Devils stadium on those punt blocks 35-31

[rexvos]

you are thinking the Arizona State game they won in the Sun Devils stadium on those punt blocks 35-31

yep.

[oregonweim]

Thought there were more, checked last five years...

2002
#18 USC vs Auburn W 24-17
#15 Oregon vs Mississippi State W 36-13

2003
#13 LSU @ Arizona W 59-13
#8 USC @ #6 Auburn W 23-0
Oregon @ Mississippi State W 42-34

2004
#4 LSU vs Oregon State W 22-21

2005
#5 LSU @ #15 Arizona State W 35-31
#1 USC vs Arkansas 70-17

2006
#8 LSU vs Arizona W 45-3
#6 USC @ Arkansas W 50-14
#4 Auburn vs Washington State W 40-14
#23 Tennessee vs California W 35-18


Pac 10 played SEC heads up 12 times in 5 years with each winning 6... Only one matchup featured both unranked (oregon vs MSU) and only two matchups had the lower ranked team winning (Tenn over Cal at home last year and USC @ Auburn). USC and LSU are each 4-0. Oregon is 2-0, Auburn, Arizona, and Arkansas 0-2. I'm looking forward to the Tenn Oregon and Georgia Oregon matchups :D

[redandpewter55]

Pac 10 played SEC heads up 12 times in 5 years with each winning 6... Only one matchup featured both unranked (oregon vs MSU) and only two matchups had the lower ranked team winning (Tenn over Cal at home last year and USC @ Auburn). USC and LSU are each 4-0. Oregon is 2-0, Auburn, Arizona, and Arkansas 0-2. I'm looking forward to the Tenn Oregon and Georgia Oregon matchups :D
Me too. Im going to keep changing my major so I can keep getting student tickets at the age of 50. :salut:

[oregonweim]

Me too. Im going to keep changing my major so I can keep getting student tickets at the age of 50. :salut:

:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

[stantonss]

Les has and will always be a raspy cock sucker

[Seahawcla]

and also, no they do not need to get over themselves... the only reason why idiots on the coasts east and west do not all universally recognize the SEC is the elite conference is that the media pushes right and left coast schools (Notre Dame, Michigan, USC, and other schools down our throats)... the other schools get all the media hype. People talk about a USC three-peat with LSU as the after thought, when LSU won the BCS crown, the way the Colleges decided to name a champion.



I agree SEC is clearly the best football conference, but if they want to shut their critics up they need to leave the south and go win/play games at USC, Texas, Ohio St., Michigan, Oklahoma etc...

Oregon v. Georgia and Cal v. Tenn are examples of games that need to be played yearly (opponents changing of course).

[oregonweim]

I agree SEC is clearly the best football conference, but if they want to shut their critics up they need to leave the south and go win/play games at USC, Texas, Ohio St., Michigan, Oklahoma etc...

Oregon v. Georgia and Cal v. Tenn are examples of games that need to be played yearly (opponents changing of course).


SEC is good, not the best ;)

[rexvos]

I agree SEC is clearly the best football conference, but if they want to shut their critics up they need to leave the south and go win/play games at USC, Texas, Ohio St., Michigan, Oklahoma etc...

Oregon v. Georgia and Cal v. Tenn are examples of games that need to be played yearly (opponents changing of course).

I agree,,, and I think Oregon is right on par with Mississippi State as Brett's post showed, and I have said from the beginning USC is an elite team.

[rexvos]

and on the strength of schedule thing, LSU plays Va Tech this year (not sure if it is at home or on the road) last time we played them we played them there... and we are playing them early in the season, before they start their yearly slide.

[bamasa37sb34]

If there as an SEC/Pac 10 show down, matching up the #1 teams from each conference, #2 teams, and so on, there is no doubt in my mind the SEC would win at least 7 of the 10 games. The top teams in the conference are evenly matched, but when you get to the mid-lower levels of each conference, this is when the SEC seperates iteself from the Pac 10. The middle teams of the SEC are Auburn, Tennessee, and two out of Alabama/South Carolina/Arkansas. Pit these "average" SEC teams against average Pac 10 teams, and it would get ugly. Arkansas vs. Oregon State? Arkansas blows the hell out of them. Have you seen McFadden and Felix Jones play together? Damn, they had that season last year without a passing game to speak of!! Tennessee vs. Oregon? As much as I hate Tennessee, they would win walking away. Remember what they had last year that Cal didn't? Speed all over the freakin' place, the SEC thrives on it more than any other conference. Not to mention, most SEC teams are very physical as well.

The #9 and #10 teams in the SEC are Kentucky and Vanderbilt. They would destroy whoever the bottom two teams in the Pac 10 are (Stanford and Washington?). The strength from the SEC is from top to bottom, not just the top like many other conferences.

[JoeyV]

Kentucky was better than Alabama last year:lollol:


:pop:

[Seahawcla]

If there as an SEC/Pac 10 show down, matching up the #1 teams from each conference, #2 teams, and so on, there is no doubt in my mind the SEC would win at least 7 of the 10 games. The top teams in the conference are evenly matched, but when you get to the mid-lower levels of each conference, this is when the SEC seperates iteself from the Pac 10. The middle teams of the SEC are Auburn, Tennessee, and two out of Alabama/South Carolina/Arkansas. Pit these "average" SEC teams against average Pac 10 teams, and it would get ugly. Arkansas vs. Oregon State? Arkansas blows the hell out of them. Have you seen McFadden and Felix Jones play together? Damn, they had that season last year without a passing game to speak of!! Tennessee vs. Oregon? As much as I hate Tennessee, they would win walking away. Remember what they had last year that Cal didn't? Speed all over the freakin' place, the SEC thrives on it more than any other conference. Not to mention, most SEC teams are very physical as well.

The #9 and #10 teams in the SEC are Kentucky and Vanderbilt. They would destroy whoever the bottom two teams in the Pac 10 are (Stanford and Washington?). The strength from the SEC is from top to bottom, not just the top like many other conferences.

Oregon St. v. Arkansas at the end of the year would have been anyone's game.

Also you cant use this theory of 1 v. 1, 2 v.2... You have a 10 team versus 12 team thing going and leaving off the weakest two would obviously adjust things.

[oregonweim]

Funny, depth, with the exception of Stanford, is the Pac 10s strength.. and it wasn't that long ago that the Cardinals were in the mix. Arkansas OSU would be a fun game :D Everyone is on their train now, and Floridas, yet not to far back neither mattered. I like Arkansas running backs, but they won't matter this year either. Of course since their non conference consists of Troy, North Texas and Div IAA Chattanooga, they most likely will be 5-0 going into their home game against Auburn on Oct 13. PLaying 8 games at home will help them out as well :D

[rexvos]

the Pac 10 has a purty mouth /thread