Kobe Bryant officially wants out of LA

[oregonweim]

Heard part of his interview with that jackass Stephen a Smith. Feels like the Lakers threw him under the bus (in regards to Shaq leaving) and did not honor their promises to rebuild around him. According to what I heard he has two years left on his deal... Funny, but considering he was an ass out of high school refusing to go anywhere but LA (ok, well he didn't want to go to Charlotte) he got what he deserved :D :salut:

[swany]

Heard part of his interview with that jackass Stephen a Smith. Feels like the Lakers threw him under the bus (in regards to Shaq leaving) and did not honor their promises to rebuild around him. According to what I heard he has two years left on his deal... Funny, but considering he was an ass out of high school refusing to go anywhere but LA (ok, well he didn't want to go to Charlotte) he got what he deserved :D :salut:

He also said later (I think on 710 AM in LA) that he wants to stay in LA, so who knows.

EDIT: Oh crap...that was from Tuesday. I didn't realize he said the trade thing today!

[DNoz29]

Kobe's not going anywhere. Many guys request trades and never get traded.

Bryant is a draw for the LA fans. If you trade Kobe, you lose your main draw (unless he's traded for LeBron James, which would never happen).

Kobe will likely retire a Laker.

The Lakers need to do anything they can to get Kevin Garnett, as he would make the Lakers championship contenders immediately.

[oregonweim]

He said there is "nothing" the Lakers can do to make him change his mind.... should be fun times in La La land.

[GiantFan]

Kobe's not going anywhere. Many guys request trades and never get traded.

Bryant is a draw for the LA fans. If you trade Kobe, you lose your main draw (unless he's traded for LeBron James, which would never happen).

Kobe will likely retire a Laker.

The Lakers need to do anything they can to get Kevin Garnett, as he would make the Lakers championship contenders immediately.


Never say never because you never know.

[DNoz29]

The Lakers would be absolutely foolish to trade Kobe. There isn't one single player worth Kobe in this league. Jerry Buss isn't going to let Kobe be traded, no matter what he gets in return.

Plus, the price for other teams would be too much.

Kobe will be a Laker until after the 2008-09 season (he can opt out after that season) and will likely retire a Laker.

[seahawks4ever]

Last edited by swany : Today at 10:42 AM. Reason: I am a moron.

about time to see a Packers fan say this. :D:p;)

[kadillac_style]

I would pay for someone to throw him under a bus.


No, I mean it. Throw him under a bus!:eek:

[#11 Roy Williams]

Listening to the interview...

Stephen A. Smith asks "Would you like to be traded?"

Kobe: Yes, I would like to be traded.

Stephen : I will ask you one more time "Is there anything the Lakers could do to keep you on the Lakers?"

Kobe: Nah bro.

I heard a rumor down here in Dallas, on the radio, that it could be Kobe for Dirk. They are also saying it on 1st and 10 as I speak.

Plus, Smith asked him if there is any place he would prefer to go, he said not really. I would play in Pluto?

I don't know what to think, Kobe has a "world revolves around me" attitude. Probably wouldn't go to well.

Another rumor was Portland 1st overall for Kobe.

[#11 Roy Williams]

The Lakers would be absolutely foolish to trade Kobe. There isn't one single player worth Kobe in this league. Jerry Buss isn't going to let Kobe be traded, no matter what he gets in return.

Plus, the price for other teams would be too much.

Kobe will be a Laker until after the 2008-09 season (he can opt out after that season) and will likely retire a Laker.

I would definatly disagree. LeBron is, i'm sure, worth more than Kobe. Maybe even Oden in a year or 2.

[b70x7n]

Kobe = :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

[dnabb8436]

Maybe he comes home :D

[hoosierdaddy]

this is going to be fun to watch.

[seahawks4ever]

I've got my popcorn ready (thanks for the line T.O.) :D

[swany]

about time to see a Packers fan say this. :D:p;)
And the last time. :)

[seahawks4ever]

And the last time. :)

:D:D:D:D:D

[Jerry!Jerry!]

I say the NBA gives Kansas City an expansion team and grants Kobe Bryant to them for their 3rd year First round pick.:D

It would benefit everyone....the NBA, Kobe, the Lakers, ME:eek:

Thats all that matters:cool:

[DNoz29]

I would definatly disagree. LeBron is, i'm sure, worth more than Kobe. Maybe even Oden in a year or 2.
I wouldn't trade Kobe for LeBron. James is a great player and I like him, but Kobe Bryant is in a league all by himself. Kobe plays better defense, shoots significantly better from the foul line and already has three rings.

Kobe is only 29 years old and I'm willing to bet he wins a championship on his own before LeBron does in Cleveland.

Bryant is the best player in the league and those guys do not get traded straight up for anyone.

[seahawks4ever]

I wouldn't trade Kobe for LeBron. James is a great player and I like him, but Kobe Bryant is in a league all by himself. Kobe plays better defense, shoots significantly better from the foul line and already has three rings.

Kobe is only 29 years old and I'm willing to bet he wins a championship on his own before LeBron does in Cleveland.

Bryant is the best player in the league and those guys do not get traded straight up for anyone.

The thing I like about LeBron is his ability to make his team better as a whole. Yeah Kobe can score 50, 60, or 70 but what about everyone else. When I watch LeBron play he is not selfish with the ball. In Game 1, I thought that was an awesome pass to Marshall in the corner. He could not have been more wide open.

If I wanted to only put butts in the seats, I'd take Kobe. If I wanted butts in the seats and a player to build a team on, LeBron in a heartbeat.

[f8n4tune]

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i224/F8n4tune/icon_cheers.gif

I've been waiting for this for years , now if they can get rid of Phil i'll be a Laker fan again. Shaq gone/Malone gone/Kobe & Phil on the way out ?

I LOVE IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[b70x7n]

Kobe already has three rings.

How many without Shaq?

[sffanmike25]

Apparently Ray Allen can see the future :eek: :

"If Kobe doesn't see he needs two and a half good players to be a legitimate playoff contender or win a championship in about a year or two he'll be calling out to Jerry Buss that 'We need some help in here,' or 'Trade me,' " Allen said. "And we'll all be saying, 'I told you so,' when he says that."

10/14/04

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/basketball/195189_sonx14.html

[seahawks4ever]

Apparently Ray Allen can see the future :eek: :

"If Kobe doesn't see he needs two and a half good players to be a legitimate playoff contender or win a championship in about a year or two he'll be calling out to Jerry Buss that 'We need some help in here,' or 'Trade me,' " Allen said. "And we'll all be saying, 'I told you so,' when he says that."

10/14/04

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/basketball/195189_sonx14.html

He is Jesus after all... ;)

[hoosierdaddy]

Apparently Ray Allen can see the future :eek: :

"If Kobe doesn't see he needs two and a half good players to be a legitimate playoff contender or win a championship in about a year or two he'll be calling out to Jerry Buss that 'We need some help in here,' or 'Trade me,' " Allen said. "And we'll all be saying, 'I told you so,' when he says that."

10/14/04

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/basketball/195189_sonx14.html

lol

[hoosierdaddy]

kobe is now backtracking...he told dan patrick that he now wants to be a laker for life

[DNoz29]

How many without Shaq?
None, but without Kobe, Shaq would have one ring, and it wouldn't have been in LA.

[f8n4tune]

Who REALLY cares Kobe or Shaq it's good riddance to them both imho.

Again what we have here is another case of the Michael Jordan disease. To much one player and no team. Name me a player from any of the Bull championships ?

I don't mean no one knows any players , i mean when you talk about the Bulls great years you only say one thing EVERYTIME MJ.

Now you talk about the old NBA and when you say the Lakers you say Magic/Silk/Kareem/Worthy ALL THE TIME. Celtics ? You say Bird/Mchale/Ainge. Pistons ? Isaiah/Lambeer/Dumars.

Take whatever you can get now while you can get something , you won't be selling any seats anyway when they are still losers or when he walks in 2009. And at least you'll get something.

[b70x7n]

Again what we have here is another case of the Michael Jordan disease. To much one player and no team. Name me a player from any of the Bull championships ?


Toni Kukoc, Scottie Pippen, Bill Cartwright, John Paxson, Steve Kerr, Luc Longley, Dennis Rodman.....

[swany]

Toni Kukoc, Scottie Pippen, Bill Cartwright, John Paxson, Steve Kerr, Luc Longley, Dennis Rodman.....

Horace Grant.

[wdkantro2]

I wouldn't trade Kobe for LeBron. James is a great player and I like him, but Kobe Bryant is in a league all by himself. Kobe plays better defense, shoots significantly better from the foul line and already has three rings.

Kobe is only 29 years old and I'm willing to bet he wins a championship on his own before LeBron does in Cleveland.

Bryant is the best player in the league and those guys do not get traded straight up for anyone.

How many title games has Kobe even made without Shaq? Lebron is an all around player. He dished it out to a guy who was wide open at the end of the game rather than forcing a shot up the way Kobe would. No offense, but you have some serious west coast bias going on.

[sffanmike25]

How many title games has Kobe even made without Shaq? Lebron is an all around player. He dished it out to a guy who was wide open at the end of the game rather than forcing a shot up the way Kobe would. No offense, but you have some serious west coast bias going on.

LOL, never would expect that out of Dustin.

:p

[seahawks4ever]

Toni Kukoc, Scottie Pippen, Bill Cartwright, John Paxson, Steve Kerr, Luc Longley, Dennis Rodman.....

Who REALLY cares Kobe or Shaq it's good riddance to them both imho.

Again what we have here is another case of the Michael Jordan disease. To much one player and no team. Name me a player from any of the Bull championships ?

I don't mean no one knows any players , i mean when you talk about the Bulls great years you only say one thing EVERYTIME MJ.

Now you talk about the old NBA and when you say the Lakers you say Magic/Silk/Kareem/Worthy ALL THE TIME. Celtics ? You say Bird/Mchale/Ainge. Pistons ? Isaiah/Lambeer/Dumars.

Take whatever you can get now while you can get something , you won't be selling any seats anyway when they are still losers or when he walks in 2009. And at least you'll get something.

Horace Grant.

Ron Harper, Jason Caffey, Brian Williams. I loved the Bulls back in the day!!!


About the bolded statements, actually when I think back to the Bulls' glory years, the names are automatically Jordan, Pippen, Rodman with Kerr right behind them.

If Jordan was alone on the team, he would not have won ish either. He would be in the playoffs every year, but nothing more.

[oregonweim]

Buck, Kersey, Porter, Clyde, Ducky, Clifford... ahhh :D:D just couldn't get over the top

[f8n4tune]

I have to disagree guys on that one , no one ever says any of those guys in conversation. It's always MJ and the other guys are afterthoughts. But it's all good. :p

[f8n4tune]

Buck, Kersey, Porter, Clyde, Ducky, Clifford... ahhh :D:D just couldn't get over the top

I used to like Duckworth's game. A McAdoo without the points.

[DNoz29]

How many title games has Kobe even made without Shaq? Lebron is an all around player. He dished it out to a guy who was wide open at the end of the game rather than forcing a shot up the way Kobe would. No offense, but you have some serious west coast bias going on.
Read my response to Dan, who made a similar statement.

I really like LeBron James and I think he's going to be one of the greats to ever play this game. That being said, I wouldn't trade Kobe Bryant for him. I've watched Kobe for his entire career, seen him fail and succeed. He is the "clutchest" (new word?) player since Mr. Jordan. Kobe is the best at what he does. Not to mention Kobe plays lock-down defense, something James doesn't do.

LeBron is a fantastic player and I thought he made a great pass the other night, but to say Kobe wouldn't have done that is not entirely true. Sure, Kobe forces up some shots, but he consistently hits game-winning/tying shots, which is why he forces shots. A couple of times this past season he passed the ball to a teammate to tie the game.

Do I have West Coast bias? Sure. But who doesn't have bias when it comes to sports? And my opinion about Kobe vs. LeBron has little to do w/ West Coast bias.

Like I said, James is a great player (my favorite non-Laker/ex-Laker), but give me Kobe 10/10 times. Nothing against James -- Bryant is a better player, period.

[seahawks4ever]

Nothing against James -- Bryant is a better shooter, period.

fixed.

[wdkantro2]

Bryant is a better scorer. Lebron is a better all around player, I don't think that's even up for debate.

[wdkantro2]

None, but without Kobe, Shaq would have one ring, and it wouldn't have been in LA.

How can you say that? That statement doesn't really have any basis...

[swany]

Buck, Kersey, Porter, Clyde, Ducky, Clifford... ahhh :D:D just couldn't get over the top

They were one of my all-time favorite non-Bucks team. They had some classics back in the day. :)

[DNoz29]

How can you say that? That statement doesn't really have any basis...
Are you serious? I'm not talking about the 17/18-year-old Kobe air balling three pointers in Utah. I'm talking about the Kobe who took over in overtime in the finals @ Indiana after Shaq fouled out. Shaq was the best player in the league for the Lakers in their run, but without Kobe Bryant there to help him out, the Lakers would not have won a championship, let alone three.

Who else did the Lakers have? They had a bunch of great role players (Horry, Fox, Fisher, George), but no all-star players outside of Shaq and Kobe (until Malone/Payton came along... didn't win a ring that year... count Glen Rice for half a season, if you like).

LeBron may be a better distributor, but Kobe is a superior defense player. That definitely isn't up for debate.